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什麼是真 什麼是假 - 第145集
What is real? What is unreal?
「當相離相，相而無相，乃顯實相」。實相在哪裡？當相就是。我們學習，因為我們用電視、用網路，最貼切的比喻無過於我們的屏幕，電視屏幕、電腦屏幕。我常常把屏幕比喻作實相，自性、理體，畫面比喻作妄相。畫面是有生有滅，千變萬化，體永遠不變，不生不滅。
“One should renounce the existing phenomena because forms that exist are not (real) forms. The reality will then be apparent.” Where is reality? It is in the existing phenomena. Since we are using television and the internet in our learning, the most appropriate metaphor is none other than our television and computer screens. I often used the screen as a metaphor for reality, the true nature and fundamental substance, and the transient images as a metaphor for the illusory phenomena. Images are subject to arising and ceasing and are ever-changing, but the fundamental substance never changed and will neither arise nor cease.
體在哪裡？體在相中。我們看到電視屏幕的畫面，同時也看到邊幕，屏幕的自體，沒有屏幕就沒有畫面，畫面必須依靠屏幕才能顯現。所以你一定要知道，有生有滅的是畫面，千變萬化的是畫面，不生不滅的是屏幕；有生有滅畫面裡頭沒有離開屏幕，屏幕是體。什麼是真、什麼是假的，看得清清楚楚明明白白。
Where is the substance? It is in the phenomena. For instance, when we see the images on the television screen, we also see the screen (i.e., the substance) at the same time. Without the screen, there will be no images because the latter must rely on the former to appear. That’s why you must know that what will arise and cease and are ever-changing are the images, while what will neither arise nor cease is the screen. The images are never dissociated from the screen (i.e., the substance). We can clearly see what is real and what is unreal.